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Bill: he really elevated the church in the modern age. why did francis choose to do it this way? >> it was a total surprise. john paul ii, john the 23rd was a surprise. he was revolutionary, as you said. he started vatican two. i believe pope francis is saying you know what, revolution isn't bad, it's not bad at all. in the presence of benedict giving us so much tradition, saying let's do it together, go forward. bill: and benedict is there as well. apparently they greeted each other twice during the ceremony. in st. peter's. what did his presence mean to you? >> benedict had the decision to r...

A mass never seen before. up to a million packing st. peter's square with pope francis with the retired public benedict. pope john xxiii, pope john paul the 23rd, fox news religion contributor on this, good morning to you. what did it mean to you to see that moment? >> 800,000 people is what they say was in the square. they went over there three hours before, she cannot even get into the square with that many people. it was historic because w we hae john paul ii, john the 23rd, people under the age of 65 don't remember. pope francis saying for some reason these two men are very important for u...