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present its case and we don t know also whether the former president might choose to testify in his own defense. i want to start by bringing in cnn senior legal affairs correspondent paula reid who has been all over this story for many, many week, and paula, the indictment is out now. i wonder, what to you as someone following this and every single move and detail, what stands out to you as the most damning information we ve gotten? it s such a strong reminder of how little we know compared to investigators. one of the things that struck me and i think will resonate with the american people are the photographs that the indictment uses to tell the story of how some of the nation s most sensitive secrets were strewn about mar-a-lago. prosecutors in this indictment say that these secrets were in a bathroom, in a ballroom. there you see the photo of them being in a bathroom boxes stacked up there, in the ballroom. these are cardboard, pretty flimsy in a ballroom actively ....
bathroom, in a ballroom. there you see the photo of them being in a bathroom, boxes just stacked up there in the ballroom. i mean these are pretty flimsy cardboard boxes in a ballroom that is actively being used for events. there you see sensitive defense information, secrets that are only meant to be shared with a small handful of our closest allies, and they re strewn about the floor of a storage closet. and it s one thing to say that in an indictment, but it s another to support this with photographs. that was one of the things that really struck me in this indictment. but the breadth and the depth of the evidence that they ve gathered in this investigation, it s incredible. i mean, for example, there are two incidents where they say the former president shared classified documents in person. one is a story that we broke last week, a meeting at his bedminster golf club, where he says that he has sensitive information and appears to be urging people in a meeting to lo ....
yeah, i mean, this is the sticky thing about defending the contents of the indictment and it s why i think ultimately you will see most of these candidates stick to the broader arguments about double standards. why didn t hillary get it? why didn t biden get it? this left me to wonder has anyone made a substantive rebuttal to what we ve seen in the indictment and, by the way, i presume donald trump innocent until proven otherwise but ric grenell, office of national intelligence, director, former ambassador to germany tweeted at us while talking tonight and it s the first person who is connected to trump that made a substantive argument and said for me to tone down the clutching but said i have personal experience they lie about and dramatize classifications. they regularly call something a national security threat that is simply a public relations threat. i wonder over the next few days, will this be some of what you see from republicans saying the contents of this indictment ....
They regularly call something a national security threat that is simply a public relations threat. so i wonder over the next few days, is this going to be some of what you see from republicans basically saying, the contents of this indictment can t be trusted because we have not yet seen the documents. we ve seen a list but we haven t seen the documents. it made me wonder will a jury ever see the documents because they re classified. the classification itself is sort of a, per se, establishes that this is sensitive information, right? i wouldn t even consider what rick granell just said a truly substantive rebuttal as amuch a casting doubt generally. that is an argument you often hear, know, is about this overclassification, saying documents are overclassified. i think most people say, sure, they do overclassify some things. nuclear capabilities, kaitlan? is that overclassified? it s a great question, and ....