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>> dana: it one last question, the president has been very vocal calling the mueller investigation a rigged witch hunt. aside from a few of the stories that pop up, we don't actually hear from mueller, he hasn't spoken to the public in a year and a half. there's all this public p.r., doesn't have any effect on what mueller is doing? >> absolutely not. remember mueller is a soldier by profession, and he actually was asked to go to vietnam and try to wait out an injury. he's following his policy. prosecutors don't come out and are instructed under doj headlines to come out and talk about the inv...

Times, are you sure you don't want to assert any privilege here? almost hinting they may want to rethink that. now rudy giuliani basically inherits the original teams approach to the case. rudy giuliani has tried to make it look like it seamless and they are all on board and everything is fine, do you think that will hold? >> i think at this point, there was a little bit of it in a statement that giuliani made, i might have done something different. but if he's in a situation where things go south, he will blame the former lawyers. if things go well he will say, it went well because i continue...