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And he extended the interview to about 45 minutes. there were times where just knowing the tricks of the tv trade it sounded like the host of the program might have been ready to wrap it up, and the president kept extending. he seemed to be in a mood to talk. he has a busy day today. there s a lot going on. you mentioned kanye west being a part of the conversation. he s at the white house today talking about a number of issues, including criminal justice reform, also the issues of violence in chicago, and the music modernization act, which will sort of rewrite the publishing rules in the modern streaming age, especially for song writers and performers. so we ll see a number of those sort of people from the music industry here as well. and the president talked about that criminal justice piece, and he was asked by the panel this morning if his attorney general and we know they don t see eye to eye on a number of things might be at odds with the president on this issue. i know from m ....

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