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Said the president wanted to call on putin to ramp up the pressure on north korea are now hedging their bets. >> the leaders are going to be at the summit together. wouldn't be at all unusual if they ended up with some kind of a pull-aside. the question is whether we've got sufficient substance. >> reporter: but a meeting with putin would also highlight a mushrooming political problem for the president back home, the russia investigation. >> that, i think, is keeping president trump from formally having a meeting because he's going to have to talk about that to the press and he may not want to...

As a frustrated kremlin spokesman put it in theory, they could travel to mars to the tonight. life is a bit different, let's wait and see. the administration officials who had said the president wanted to call on putin to ramp up the pressure on north korea are now hedging their bets. >> clearly, the leaders are going to be at the summit together. it wouldn't be at all unusual if they ended up with some kind of a pull-aside. the question is whether we've got sufficient substance. >> reporter: but a meeting would highlight a mushrooming political program for the president back home, the russia ...

Convention area. and, again, sessions gives a speech, and at the end, kislyak as a pull-aside, if you will. we're not sure how long it lasts, but it was described by intelligence officials who have seen the reporting as a substantive conversation. it wasn't, at least in kislyak's view, something superficial or cursory. then there was a third meeting which took place in sessions' senate office, which occurred in september. >> which sessions has said in the past that that was in his capacity as a senator, he held that meeting. but you don't have information about what kislyak said about that mee...

A part of the conversation that don had with this meeting. >> is this what you would expect from a u.s. president? do you think he was just trying to build some sort of rapport with putin? >> this is very unusual. and i staffed president obama when he went to the g20 summit in russia, as a matter of fact. and so the notion of a private pull-aside is actually very common place and it's not that unusual that if you have a private pull-aside you don't have the right interpreter necessarily on hand but these usually last two or three minutes. to have what is reported to be and i've heard from a co...

Euphemism for -- look, you know, i've worked at the white house for president bush wit, the fat. 15 minutes, half an hour, that's not a pull-aside, that's a meeting. usually nicety go on 45 seconds, a minute. and the fact that the president would have an extended conversation with any world leader, especially ukraine, syria. it shouldn't happen that way. it should be planned, there should be no takers there. there should be staff there for follow up and so forth. it's too important to lead to that kind of freelancing. >> so how do you explain their relationship? >> i can't. and i think that's ...