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There's nothing to indicate there was anything sensitive. there would be really -- it's hard to imagine him having a lot of access to sensitive information at that time. he was not in trump's orbit. he was a private sector employee. >> that was 2013. so nobody was in his political orbit at the time. >> true, but he didn't have access to anything sensitive. it does not appear he handed over anything sensitive. >> that's not unusual at least the the way the prosecutors and fbi explained it at the time. when we cultivate assets, they start small, they don't necessarily start with people even thin...

The way the prosecutors and fbi explained it at the time. when we cultivate assets, they start small, they don't necessarily start with people that have access. they just start a relationship that results in the turnover of documents, get that pump priepd and cultivate people for the long term. >> absolutely. it's making that connection. it's a long game. you can check in in five or ten years. >> why did carter page confirm this to you and what was his affect towards this information and it becoming public? >> he was very forthcoming. i had been doing a lot reporting on it. so i knew it was hi...

There's nothing to indicate there was anything sensitive. there would be really -- it's hard to imagine him having a lot of access to sensitive information at that time. he was not in trump's orbit. he was a private sector employee. >> that was 2013. >> he didn't have access to anything sensitive. it does not appear he handed over anything sensitive. >> that's not unusual at least the way the prosecutors and fbi explained it at the time. when we cultivate assets, they start small, they don't necessarily start with people that have access. th jt start a relationship that rests in the turnover o...