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So there's no winning situation there. >> romney would bring a star power to the senate that we don't have in the current senate. we've had it with someone like marco rubio but he's a diminished figure. >> and john mccain before he got ill. >> yes. and in some ways he would almost be the figure head of a parallel party, a parallel party standing for free trade and traditional reliances around the world and perhaps a more moderate view on things like climate change and some of these issues and he would become a tribune for that and a collision course with the president, just knowing romney, it'...

To make a choice, would he be a foil for president trump, would it be someone who at this stage in his career really wanted to be a voice for the republican establishment and a more moderate, global form of politics or try to be a party leader and he's younger than many people in the party are still leaders on both sides and so while people close to him say he'd be a statesman, he'd work with the president when he wanted to and disagree like he did in charlottesville, he'd weigh in. . and people really say he sees that as a possibility. if trump does not run for reelection, he sees himself rea...

Rick tyler, what's your take on romney? >> well, look, they've had a rough relationship, but the president pumped romney. there's no question about. that he had no intention of giving him the secretary of state. he put him through the paces to say, i'm in charge here and i'm not hiring. now, the reason trump -- and i don't want to get too deep into his psychological profile here, but the reason trump doesn't want someone like romney 5,000 miles from the white house, trump is insecure about having competent people around him. romney can read a teleprompter. he has high approval ratings. he's ev...