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. mark: gordon chang, really north korea is a puppet state, is it not, of china. not of russia. was a puppet state of russia, but still a stalinist regime, a puppet state of china and china is becoming more stalinist under xi and more mao-like, stalinist, whatever you want to call it. do you think china would tolerate the collapse of north korea and what can we do about china in that regard? >> yeah, china, if north korea looks like it's going to fail, we're going to see the people's liberation army move south across the two rivers. the reason is, look, everyone wants to secure loose weapons o...

One, any coordination between russia, and the trump campaign, and two, any issues that are arising in the course of the investigation and that means criminality discovered while they are looking at issue one, and thirdly, the ob stlung of justice. so, if what is going on here is that they have found criminal wrongdoing on the part of mr. manafort involving for example his associations in russia or its puppet state ukraine, that is perfectly within the scope of mr. mueller's mandate. i expect at the end of the day, that is the ruling and what it will be. >> and mr. price, it struck me as i watc...

The syrians were deliberately co-mingling air assets with russian assets to hide them and to raise the stakes in terms of what type of escalation that they assumed we would not want to have in the region. pete: general newton talk to us about that cooperation between russia and syria. why are they so entangled? why is there such support for this as the president calls them animal assad who is gassing his people? why would moscow continue to back him? >> well, i believe it provides a vacuum, you know, vacuum of leadership that i think over the last administration where the united states was see...

Of doing damage to them in the middle of those negotiations. >> how much of a factor is russia in the situation? >> they are a massive factor. syria is a puppet state of russia and iran. the russians negotiated long-term leasees on their port they are fond of and an air base so it is hard to believe assad would go ahead and authorize any chemical weapons attack without consent of the russians. that puts donald trump in position of having stared down the russian bear again and said we won't tolerate that. that is unacceptable in any way and may throw the ability to negotiate an end to this out ...

Able to developing the nuclear program with long range missiles capable of reaching north korea. it's a difficult diplomatic chess game and china and russia are at the center of it. >> what does this test actually do to the relations between the u.s. and china? >> reporter: well, just in terms of china and north korea, it's easy to exaggerate the closeness of the two countries. they are traditionally historically close. but at the same time, the leader of north korea has never met with president xi, the leader of china. so many experts who look closely at that relationship say there are tensio...