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Policy making forum. >> isn't that kind of the problem? isn't that the problem -- >> it's a political revival. >> isn't that the problem we talk about? it's not the republican party. lot of people say the tea party are not the republican party but these guys get the headlines. they do things like this and we end up talking about them. >> this is why they get the headlines, because they have colorful folks like donald trump to show up and talk because it's going to be the first time mitt romney speaks after having lost the election. because they're getting sarah palin back. look, like it or not...

They do things like this and we end up talking about them. >> this is why they get the headlines, because they have colorful folks like donald trump to show up and talk because it's going to be the first time mitt romney speaks after having lost the election. because they're getting sarah palin back. look, like it or not, they are great draws and they are great sells and they are colorful. they give quotable quotes that we all love to talk about for days and weeks. >> you're right. hogan, who can they get? who can the republicans throw their weight behind, the conservatives can be happy with a...

The election. because they're getting sarah palin back. look, like it or not, they are great draws and they are great sells and they are colorful. they give quotable quotes that we all love to talk about for days and weeks. >> you're right. hogan, who can they get? who can the republicans throw their weight behind, the conservatives can be happy with and everybody else can be happy with? >> that's a great question. still way too early. i think the purity sieve we sometimes find ourselves looking through is a mistake as a party. there are former governors, current governors, who have had to wor...