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Purity test or litmus test saying if you want to be a democrat you have to hold these pro-choice views. nancy pelosi didn't go there. democrats have to work out these politics for themselves. they're going through something the republicans have gone through and arguably are still going through where you have the grassroots, all the energy is on the far left, just as on the right the energy's on the far right. but are you going to win elections like that? that's the big question. >> there's donor/voter split, too, peggy. >> it is the real story. i mean, if i can put it this way, those who profi...

Think the democratic party -- the dnc in particular they have to work really hard to reach out and bring in a lot of these young voters who were obama voters, not necessarily democratic voters from the jump and bring these protest voters back in. it's not an easy job. >> i have to say, i mean, after fighting over omaha mayor, and i -- you saw that tom perez spent his entire week having to back track on it. you heard nancy pelosi there, savannah, no no no. we welcome pro life democrats. >> it's interesting, tom perez takes the position that is something close to a purity test or a litmus test s...

Congressman ellison is and where per are rez ez is. the ideological purity test, we're missing the picture. there's a segment of the left who wants ideological litmus tests but they're missing the bigger picture. as we talk, you know what jeff sessions is doing? he's pulling the u.s. attorneys aefs o office out of the texas voter identificati identification. we have our communits under siege. these are the issues. >> okay. i think either you care about voter rights or you don't. >> no. perez is going to fight for voter rights. ellison is going to -- >> i thought you meant a more conservative p...

Rebuild the democratic party and reach out own bring people into institutional politics which they don't want to do right now. >> let me ask you, cornell, if you had the slice the pie right now and said the outside, the youth, minorities maybe, have a different vision what the democrat should stand for, the usual people running the party for years, what are the issues? foreign policy. people on the left, against war, how would you describe them? skeptical about military involvement? give me some areas. >> i worked for howard dean before i worked for obama. i think we're making too much of the ...

Message of economic opportunity, that's how we win. >> but the question about primary challenge. if you're dnc chair and there are challenges from the left to incumbent democrats, will you support that, cheer them on or think that's mistake? >> the think the role of the dnc chair is let the progress run its course and we move forward when the general election moves ahead. i'm confident that this year -- look across this country right now, in virginia at state house delegates level, they have more candidates than ever before. this energy is electric. january 20th undeniably important day but 21...