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Persuasion that he brings to this cause and also i think there is a growing recognition by republicans that want to get this issue behind them so they can begin to make inroads among latinos on the issue of jobs opportunity and values. this is a conservative and entrepreneurially minded part of our electorate and republicans are believing to think we can solve this issue in conformity with our principals we can make gains with latino voters. >> when we look at the proposal of the gang of 8 and the president's proposal on the purpo surface they seem similar. what do you think in the details cou...

Of the gang of 8 and the president's proposal on the purpo surface they seem similar. what do you think in the details could bog the process down? >> a lot could. this is a very complex issue having been involved in the previous effort and immigration reform. there are so many things that impact other things. it is very complicated. if you look at it there's four big areas of potential disagreement here. the gang of 8 said we democrats republicans believe there ought to be operational control of the border, border security first before these other provisions ca kick in and there ought to be ve...