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Research at the defense for democracy. you spent a great deal of time in your career look at our relationship with saudi arabia. that's what stood out about this report today, not so much the policy about the drones but where we are putth bases. what do you think this says about our relationship with the saudis and how reliable they are as partners in our war on terror. >> it's a great question and i have to say that the u.s. saudi relationship is probably among the more dysfunctional relationships that i've had the pleasure to try to analyze. on the one hand you have the united states that is...

But to try to make sense of it i don't know. jenna: is this a good idea? >> certainly it's a good idea in a sense it's a forward base. we will be more able to go after some of these terrorists in yemen or in the horn of africa or anyone else in the arabian peninsula for that matter. the broader question about drones, is should that be our strategy stph-r we looking at the state sponsors? are we trying to cut off the funding than or the radicalization at the source or only going after those who are the most obvious targets who are out there carrying out terrorist attacks. jenna: that's somethin...

Community organizer approach as opposed to the executive approach. quite frankly, governors understand, they've been in the position where they are sort of the figure head, they have the bully pulpit and they under no matter how many people you can sway with that you have to sort of be going in ha certain direction and get things done and that is not what this guy does, he's not good at it. so he just takes potshots and sort of plays the sort of -- appears to play the sort of political high road, meanwhile that very tactic is sort of undermining actually getting things done. jon: all right, ch...

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