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Senator baker because when the evidence came out. the formal inquiry allows a much more in-depth investigation. and so it is a very important development. >> let's also talk about democrats of course if they do push ahead, if it doeses pa through the house, it won't pass through the senate. republicans won't let that happen. so what is the real impact on president trump if house democrats do move forward with impeachment? >> if they move forward and they actually do have the votes, if they have the votes to impeach, then president trump is sent to the senate to stand trial and the point is tha...

From the esentence festival. with me, former director of the new york state democratic party and gist basal, both with us. have they moved past it? the whole back and forth now that joe biden did apologize, and why did he do it today? >> i think they're past it. you know, he seems to be gaffe prone. it may happen again. i think he did it because he had to stop the hemorrhaging. he wasn't losing -- he wasn't below anybody in the polls, but he was losing support quickly, particularly among african-americans, it was important to sort of put a pin in it and try to change message and change the nar...