The frozen conflicts are starting to unfreeze. they're on the ropes. and it's not looking good. i >> want to ask you specifically about these referendums in donetsk and luhansk. you said it will not solve prudence problems, why not? >> it's not going to solve his problems because at the end of the day it's not really going to change anything. so, it's not as though the ukrainians are going to go oh, okay, so, now in the donbas, luhansk, donuts, people have now decided they want to have their own referendum and russia has agreed to annex another part into crimea. so, there, forwards consent bac...