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The petition from giuliani and trump and in the absence of any proof there was nothing we wouldn't do. we would not do anything without proof. and he congratulated me for that letter. but he never mentioned his own call with the president. i remember that he did take a call one time one hills the chiefs game on on his phone during the one of the certifications. so he wasn't a pushover. i am surprised. but it's pleasant to know that he also -- >> yeah you weren't alone in that. he did tell a donor that he was surprised the special counsel do you think jack smith should talk to governor doocy? >...

I, mean we are hearing about trump also pressuring the governor of your state at the time. you also got a call from trump around that time pressuring you directly. had you ever heard about this call with trump and governor doocy? what do you make of how wide-ranging the pressure campaign was in your home state? >> well governor doocy is not a pushover. and he is very focused on his job. he always was. we saw differently on issues. but he was always very focused. and what he wanted to do for arizona. so he didn't make me aware of it. nor did he have to. he was supportive of us when we first put...

Time. you also got a call from trump around that time pressuring you directly. had you ever heard about this call with trump and governor ducey? i mean, what do you make of how wide ranging the pressure campaign was in your home state? >> well, governor ducey not a pushover, and he is very focused on his job. he always was. we saw differently on issues. he was always very focused on what he wanted to do for arizona, so he didn't make me aware of it nor it hdid he have. he was spupportive of us, the petition from giuliani and trump and that in the absence of any proof there was nothing we would...

Up, and it's not about -- it's not about, look at that dad taking care of their kid. because women do that every single day. it's about pushing real policies and results. >> it's time for the fun portion of this interview. do a rapid response here. who is the disciplinarian in each of your families? >> that's amazing. >> it's my wife. i'm the one that's the pushover. my daughter will go to me when she has to ask for certain things she wants. i may say yes and then find out that i contradicted a decision that had been made. >> always on the same page. >> we have to get our messaging in alignmen...

Most people, have you convinced me tonight that you are in the minority, but most people are really really nice and they do not -- i don't want to offend, so they feel guilt. somebody is asking for a tip, they ask for 10% or 20%. i think what i hear you saying, no service provided, no extra compensation. >> i have no hesitation to stair the person down like i am going to run over with my car and hit no tip. smile and say here is your tip, act like you like your job, it's not that hard. >> who would have guessed that an old homicide prosecutor would be a pushover and tip even when it's not warr...