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A pushover. and you say about the politics drawing europeans to america, i think europeans are thinking on a 20-year horizon, america's unpredictable, and that sharpens the dilemma for them. >> the technology piece is the bigger piece here. that's where with the huawei ban, the u.s. is trying to decouple with china. the chinese must get this message and say we're going to great our own technology universe, and that train has already left the station. >> i would argue the bigger decisions have been made by the chinese, not the americans and the trump administration has pushed that along. the sp...

Some commercial gain. >> the united states, though, has not really given him any sanctions relief to this point. and that maybe why he's acting up. >> right he's -- he might have thought he could get away with a deal recall that no way he to close the facility in exchange for essentially qowld have been stangs relief all of the captions we have put in place in 2016. that the president walked away from that, deal which would have been a bad one for us. i think that demonstrated that we're going to if not be a pushover but demanding inventory of the nuclear stockpile and timetable for its destru...

Has not really given him any sanctions relief to this point. and that maybe why he's acting up. >> right he's -- he might have thought he could get away with a deal recall that no way he to close the facility in exchange for essentially qowld have been stangs relief all of the captions we have put in place in 2016. that the president walked away from that, deal which would have been a bad one for us. i think that demonstrated that we're going to if not be a pushover but demanding inventory of the nuclear stockpile and timetable for its destruction. and the timetable is quite long frankly just ...

Certainly that is true for this story and, quite possibly, for the woman at its heart. her name? heidy wagner. >> as the baby, she was favored. everybody loved her. she could do no wrong. >> reporter: autumn was one of heidy's four sisters. >> she was just special. you know, she'd walk into the room and she's ready for that good time. >> reporter: heidy grew up with no fewer than seven older siblings. tell me about her growing up. >> she was a fun-loving girl. she was rather shy, though, so heidy seemed an appropriate name. >> reporter: heidy's mom, janet. >> the family would get together and ...

And the answer's not always so clear. certainly that is true for this story and, quite possibly, for the woman at its heart. her name? heidy wagner. >> as the baby, she was favored. everybody loved her. she could do no wrong. >> autumn was one of heidy's four sisters. >> she was just special. you know, she'd walk into the room and she's ready for that good time. >> heidy grew up with no fewer than seven older siblings. tell me about her growing up. >> she was a fun-loving girl. she was rather shy, though, so heidy seemed an appropriate name. >> heidy's mom, janet. >> the family would get toget...