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And say they're about screaming more than anything else is not responsible. but there's a lot of that put-down. >> it's hard because taxes are at their lowest in 60 years. on the day that they're screaming about -- >> you live in california. >> well, we're talking about federal taxes. that's what obama has control over. >> right. but we talk about the entire situation -- >> the tea party, you're right. there's a local -- >> new york. not to cut you off, but what i found in '94, this happens for some reason during economic downturns. we had on the local level, the state level, the national leve...

Philosophy, that heart-felt sentiment extend to dawn's family, knowing what she did and loved it. have they spoken to you at all about this horrible tragedy? >> i received a touching letter yesterday from someone in the family, let's leave it at that, who is studying to be a killer whale trainer. if you read this letter, you would understand. tears came to my eyes. if you read this letter from this young person she said, please, whatever happens, i appreciate jackie saying the whale wouldn't be put down, which i knew would never happen, and her legacy continue for the whales and for mankind wh...

Human error involved in something like this, then things happen. >> well this -- you pointed out two other instances. those two other instances of deaths are times this particular whale has been blamed for someone else's death some, three deaths on this whale's head. it seems to me shouldn't one death be enough? shouldn't seaworld have retired this animal? >> you say retired. remember something that no one ever swam with tilly at seaworld. the animal is with other whales, females and tilly bred and they had babies. no one ever swam with tilly at seaworld. the young man that was kill and snuck ...

And snuck in the park. i can't feel sorry for that young man. like someone who jumps off a building. that is basically what he did. you can't blame -- tilly is a wild, dangerous animal. you can't blame seaworld for that. >> one quick question, i don't want to offend dog owners. i know, for example, a pit bull kills one human being, often that pit bull is put down, whether the person's fault or the animal's. why shouldn't a whale that's killed three human beings at least be isolated with any sort of contact with people? >> i'm sure that may happen at seaworld now. i'm not quite sure. again, if ...

Involved, i believe, this is me, i don't know what happened, when there is human error involved in something like this, then things happen. >> well this -- you pointed out two other instances. those two other instances of deaths are times this particular whale has been blamed for someone else's death some, three deaths on this whale's head. it seems to me shouldn't one death be enough? shouldn't seaworld have retired this animal? >> well, you say retired. remember something, that no one ever swam with tilly at seaworld. the animal is with other whales, females and tilly bred and they had babie...