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>> neil: you're right about that. the president hinted that he wants to work with joe manchin to build back build back better. i wonder if that means something that he gets rid of like expanding medicare to cover vision and dental benefits, cover more americans, that that would be put off. but the size of this thing would shrink to only those that would pass muster with progressives and people likekristen sinema of arizona and joe manchin. do you think that that is possible? >> well, i think joe manchin was absolutely right to say he's not going to vote for this piece of legislation. my hats o...

He said you're not listening to me. i'm not going there. you can't bully me. so the question is can they begin to accept that he's got parameters that they have to meet. i also think and i'm grateful for this as well, even a 1.75 trillion in true numbers, there's still crippling tax cuts there, tax hikes that will drive u.s. jobs overseas and really drive this economy lower as well. so we're still fighting for this bill to die. but i think at the end of the day, the progressives will do that for us. i don't think they can accept what joe manchin will insist that they do in the senate. >> neil:...

10 trillion. big and bold. they knew republicans wouldn't get on board. that was not hard to see. republicans are not going to vote for tax increases. overall, they had to make sure that manchin and cinema are there at the end. remember, neil, even if this passes the senate, it's got to go back to the house. just five progressives could sink it. >> neil: with the things that they like, even manchin likes is this funding for universal pre-k. the difference is over the ten year period. he was open to the child tax credit, lower cost for prescription drugs but might shelf or wait on the other mat...

Of put off and tugged away and the timing of it impacts the payments. it does not seem like there is time, i don't want to say tricks but for little loopholes like this because it can cause someone like a joe manchin who cares about physical responsibility and things being paid for and how this impacts our overall economy and steve ratner has the point there. perhaps democrats putting it together is clear how this works together. he's asking time to mean test a lot of this. >> it's definitely shocking that the party in power in congress is using some gimmicks to try to make a package look like...

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