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About joe biden is, is he up to this campaign? will he fight back? and there he was fighting back. i thought it was one of the better moments he's had. >> you know, willie, proving once again that -- all the men like what joe biden doid yesterday. but women and little dogs were put off. >> the dog ran out. >> she walked away and crawled into a little box. >> for the record, a grooid wi t he needs a better explanation. >> and be kind to your voter. >> let me go back to your interview before we got to the moment in iowa, which is this idea of the party moving to the left and biden sort of stayin...

Suspicions. >> and that's when she and her sister decided to do some snooping. >> she bought these trackers for cars and she went and put one on my mom's tesla, so she found out where john was going. >> where was he going? >> to multiple doctors offices. >> not so unusual perhaps for an anesthesiaologist but the sisters noticed something. >> he was there for not long of a time. >> not long enough to get any medical procedures. what were they about? >> seemed more like a man trying to get access to something, like maybe drugs. it was just a hunch but they went to deborah with that and said mayb...

In love. >> her daughters are not about to be put off. >> one of her daughters is particularly suspicious. she doesn't know why he wears surgical scrubs everywhere. she thinks his finger nails are dirty. this does not look to her look the stands of. an appointment with death. >> coming up, troubling revelations about john. >> i learned he was not a doctor, not an anesthesiologist. >> discoveries are i will teller everything. >> when "the women and dirt ooion" continues. did have.

The source he relied on for information was not credible, and he perhaps did not rely on that. that's how that conversation transpired. again, this has been going on all day. there are a lot more details to learn. getting early glimpses of what happened. after the president of the united states talked to the president of ukraine to investigate joe biden, afterwards we're hearing now that u.s. special envoy at the time to ukraine told the ukrainian government don't interfere in u.s. politics. >> i take it the ukrainians were understandably upset there was a freeze on u.s. military and economic ...

Yes. but i'd fallen in love. >> reporter: debra's daughters were not about to be put off. >> one of her daughters is particularly suspicious. she doesn't know why he wears surgical scrubs everywhere. it seems to be a costume he's wearing. she thinks his fingernails are dirty, and this does not look to her like the hands of an actual doctor. >> reporter: and so they started digging. an investigation that would lead halfway across the country. to the depths of evil. to an appointment with death. coming up -- troubling revelations about john. >> they learned that he was not a doctor. >> discove...