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>> we don't know yet. i mean, i always make that decision, you know, after the -- the state's case has been put on. >> good answer. good answer. you know why i wouldn't let him testify? because of his prior convictions. thank you so much for being with us during the night. >> thank you. >> with me defense attorney steve razor and pathologist and fox news contributor dr. michael baden. let's hit it. you've got the first medical examiner says it's a heart attack. the second medical examiner said it's a heart attack with drugs. third said she drowned. nobody said it was a homicide. how does the p...

Zero. >> how bizarre was this whole sentencing hearing today in the scheme of things? and you've heard and watched a lot of these kinds of hearings. >> well, what was really unusual was how much evidence the prosecution put on, even before one of the victims testified. there were fbi agents, there were psychiatrists. i mean, this was almost like a mini trial. and i think it served several purposes. in part, it was to make the proceedings completely appeal-proof, but also, i think, to show the community just how horrendous this situation was. and in case anyone had any doubt that life plus 1,00...

Bill: culley, do you agree? >> i think it's hard to tell. i have to be careful as a iting military judge not to second guess my friend and colleague who's the judge in the case, but to steve's point, this is a circumstantial case that the government put on, there really is no direct knowledge of his intent, and he has to specifically intend to ininjury america through wikileaks. so whether the defense's argument prevails or the government's is what irrelevant in the grand scheme of things because, remember, already pleaded guilty to a number of other charges, and he's looking at 92 years just ...

She related to the jurors, and people shouldn't be pointing fingers, that's prejudice across the board. people need to understand we do have a cultural divide, and, in fact, what the jurors saw when she appeared on the stand because in my opinion her lack of preparedness by the state attorney in the case. if she had been on the stand and the jury would have seen that, they would have come away with a completely different impression, in my opinion, about who trayvon martin really was. >> in the entire trial, mark, did we ever get a sense of who trayvon martin was? >> not according to what we he...

Self-defense if there were such evidence, but when it isn't there, it isn't there. you know, i've described this as kind of putting lipstick on a pig. you know, no matter how you dress it up with all the yelling and hooting and hollering that the prosecution did, especially during the closing arguments, you cannot change the basic facts of this case. that was an easy self-defense case. this never should have been brought, in my opinion, because it really did anger people. it got hopes up. people angry today, because they thought this was a winnable case. whose fault is that? who are they angry...