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That, 1989 we did a fabulous first family safari to africa in that summer before. >> what year was that? >> 1999. it was the first trip of taking the kids to africa. >> we went around to all these wild places in kenya very few people go. and we found real animals. they weren't in a preserve or anything. we found them, real ones. >> and our kids are grown up now obviously but caroline at that point was only 10 years old, thomas was in 7th grade and michael was a sophomore in high school. >> back then we went to showers made out of river water and a big sort of a plastic bag of water to throw on...

President. very popular over in africa. what was he like to cover for you on "hardball"? >> a mixed bag like many politicians. i think he was smart as a whip. i think he got in trouble with monica and some other things that sort of put a mark on his presidency. but he was a moderate democrat. i think he figured out a way to save the democratic party when it was in trouble. he was very respected. that was quite a victory for him. >> and succeeded by bush's son, george w. bush. >> i just thought that had nothing to do with 9/11. and he got talked into it and led the world into a war that cost 10...

And a plastic bag of water to throw over your head, smelled of the river, remember? >> and bill clinton was the president, very popular over in africa. what was he like to cover for you on "hardball"? >> a mixed bag like most politicians. i think he was as smart as a whip. i think he got in trouble with money kpa and some other things that sort of put a mark on his presidency, but i think he figured out a way to save the democratic party when it was trouble. he brought it back. he beat an incumbent president who was very respected. >> right. >> that was a victory for him. >> and succeeded by b...

Missiles in a week or a month or a year, it's a multiyear program, if we go back to new start when obama administration cut a deal with the russians and they said, look, this demonstrate that is the russians are serious about deescalating the role of nuclear weapons in the world, we can reduce our reliance of nuclear weapons because the russians will reduce theirs, clearly, they did not do that, they start ad program on a next-generation nuclear missile and this really show that is the last administration's policies on dealing with russia nuclear threat was really, really, really off base. >> ...