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Unnecessary to have an invasion. to win by the fact the west is not moving decisively and very specifically about what it wants to do. eric: and finally, quickly, how can and nato and the u.s. defend ukraine in terms of antitank missiles, more of those anti- air missiles those kind of things you seat satellites, sharing this kind of counterintelligence information perhaps even encouraging a insurgency against the russians of the cost of putin b too much for him to do this or continue it at home? >> the west, including washington is talked about all those things you mentioned. it is doing some ...

>> my recollection was that the senator was enthusiast iic abou meeting between the candidate and president putin. >> so you say that then now attorney general sessions was enthusiastic about the idea of candidate trump meeting putin b, but he has said the opposite. he says, he testified before congress saying he quote pushed back. when you raised the possibility of a meeting with russia. that's not true you're saying. >> i don't remember that. >> you don't remember him pushing back. you remember him say iing this a good idea. >> i remember him being enthusiastic about a potential meeting betw...