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Election. i'm saying it happened. it was a cyber attack and that's how it should be looked at and treated by this country. president trump is trying to develop some kind of personal relation sh relationship. is this should be about the leader of russia, the leader of the united states of america and holding people accountable. >> and the president said in that interview that he's heading into this summit with low expectations and this he'll share his goals for the meeting after it's over. how do you interpret that? >> look everyone president is known for a certain brand of diplomacy, what we h...

Minister appeared to have low expectations saying that that is considered a success. but if both sides don't believe anything major can come out of this why do this? why do a summit with the pomp and circumstance and pageantry to it? >> i think we need to discard the idea of thinking about this in traditional summit terms in which the u.s. president is trying to accomplish something for the american people at this meeting. donald trump is not representing anything recognizable in american interests, he's said he's interested in his own interests -- he's made it plain. he's in deep legal jeopar...

Remain skeptical. >> i'd like to know the name of the president john bolton thinks he works for. he's not describing president trump. president trump went on tv after the indictment was issued and called the information a hoax. he has said that he has asked putin about meddling. putin told him he didn't do it and he believed him. it's hard to believe the president will press him hard. >> we have two reporters covering this summit in helsinki. nbc's bill neely and jeff bennet. we'll go to you, jeff, first what is the president saying? >> president trump says he has low expectations for his sit ...

>> i'll let you know after the meeting. it was mutually agreed let's have a meeting. i don't have any expectations. getting along with russia is a good thing. but i think we're hampered by the witch-hunt going on in the united states, the russian witch-hunt john bolton is saying the indictment will give the president the leverage he needs. >> he was prepared to have it come before the meeting with putin, i would say, in fact, it strengthens his hand. it shows the justice system, the department of justice are aware of these russian efforts at election meddle and i think the president can put it...

Expectations or low expectations. the president laid them out going into his meeting with putin suggesting at some point things he hadn't even thought of. maybe i'll throw that out there. are you surprised he's had no stated goal for this meeting? >> well, i think the president has so much in the past raised expectations for what he's going to be able to do as a deal maker and then been incapable of fulfilling those grandiose prethe dictions that lowering expectations before coming into this particular summit where the only true deliverable is the fact that they'll meet. that makes sense. if y...