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>> the statistics indicate that they missed some stuff and further we keep hearing expert after expert say even if they do everything they're supposed to do exactly right it doesn't keep us safe. it makes us feel safe. >> absolutely. that's a whole philosophy you're getting there, shep, is are we going to go with this last line of defense of just before somebody gets on that aircraft, are we going to start screening them, and there's always a chance they're going to miss something. i think we should be investing more in who's buying the tickets, who were the bad folks out there and let's inves...

Members the lack of a standard for punishing bad apples, for example screeners who failed to detect bombs in covert testing are not dismissed but usually allowed to just undergo new training and get back on the job. shep? >> if you miss a bomb i guess that's necessary. this is a relatively rare thing considering what an enormous organization we are. >> it is a huge organization employs about 56,000 people at the airports. it found 9,300 cases of misconduct so relatively minor. >> i'm going to have somebody do something stupid and it will get in the press and probably make 20 rounds in the pres...

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