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The office was stood up, they indicated a strong interest in helping the department of veteran affairs, which i welcomed. and when we sat down and they said, talk about the pain points. what do you really need to do to make a quantum leap in where you are? i identified the electronic record. and what we talked about is best practices about how industries make quantum changes, how you go out and solicit information from leaders in the field to make sure that you get the right stakeholders and opinions, and so they were advisory in this process. this decision, though, was fully my decision to ma...

Tax dollars. how many would you say it just ticks you off the way they behaved? >> yes. >> yes. >> what are you going to do about it? >> among other things, we've cut the budget for this kind of travel. not only have we cut it, but the president by his own order has cut it. so we're making quantum changes on how much can be spent on that. on top of that, data act, a piece of legislation is going to make it transparent to the public about where this money is being spent. we think that's most important. >> do you guys agree with that? >> yes. >> do you want him to continue? >> can they be taxed ...

The flagrant abuse of tax dollars. how many would you say it ticks you off. what are you going to do about it? >> among other things, we have cut the budget for this kind of travel, not only we cut it but the president by his own order has cut it. we are making quantum changes in how much to be spent on that. on top of that data act is going to make it transparent to the public about where this money is being spent. we think that is most important. >> host: do you agree with it? do you want to continue? >> do you make them pay the money back? >> sadly you can't but one person at the center of ...

Dollars. how many would you say it ticks you off. what are you going to do about it? >> among other things, we have cut the budget for this kind of travel, not only we cut it but the president by his own order has cut it. we are making quantum changes in how much to be spent on that. on top of that data act is going to make it transparent to the public about where this money is being spent. we think that is most important. >> host: do you agree with it? do you want to continue? >> do you make them pay the money back? >> sadly you can't but one person at the center of it all is charged with spe...