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I tried to make up for the years that i lost. still that 18-year-old kid. i'll never get that back. i'll never get that back. i look at myself as a person who's made a lot of wrong choices. >> i think jack hill back in the day was a handful. whereas he's gotten older now, and he don't want to be messed with. he don't mess with nobody. don't want anybody messing with him. >> i think inmate hill now is just about doing his time. >> people outside, they've done completed college, has a family, done all that in life in those 30-year period. to me it's just nothing has changed. when i really think ...

Que cera? keep on doing it. >> hill was recently reacquainted with this 35-year-old who transferred to santa rosa from another prison. the two men met 18 years earlier when bernie was first incarcerated. >> jack always been there for me. help me out. been like a big uncle. >> and here all we have is each other. we're family. we're family. >> as far as race, black, white, you know i got a natural life sentence. i got too much on my mind to worry about hating a whole race of people. if i'm going to hate them, i'll hate one son of a bitch at a time, not a whole race. coming up -- >> he lost a l...