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Much planning and so for example when the kids and the parents are separated, what kind of identification, what kind of paperwork is given to the parents? so you've hit on the problem, you have multiple agencies, you have agencies that have completely different policies, you have agencies not communicating with each other and you have an administration that has given directives that contradict each other and so what you have just described by listening to the agencies is the essence of the chaos illuminating from the president. >> thank you for your time certainly representative karen bass fro...

And none of it has had a particular resonance that lasts any longer than a week to ten days. we'll see. i think there are a couple things here that may stick. one, just the images of the children themselves, the unforced errors, and in particular, the inability to get your story straight about who is in charge of what. i think that more than anything, even the policy itself, sort of tells middle of the road voters these guys don't know what they're doing. >> there are a lot of democrats out there who intend to make this president trump's hurricane katrina. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, rightful...