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When you test message someone something on your work phone and pole see what you are texting on a federal work phone and it ems that you have skin in the game against a political candidate atop the food chain trying to get into the white house, doesn't it make it complicated for everybody and make it look like there might be something untoward going on at the fbi in a very fair question? >> i think that's a very fair point and a very tear question and i'm glad that ranking member cummings asked it. i think that at the end of the day, the question is whether, you know, the emotions expressed in...

Indicted. and that's why he thinks mr. trump would not have to comply with any subpoena from the special counsel. but could plead the fifth if he is forced to comply. what did you make of all that? and what's fact and what is fiction? >> well, the first question is whether or not mr. giuliani is serving the president well as an attorney or whether he is more taking on the role of a public relations manager for the president. given the volume of material that he needs to master in order to advise the president on a legal strategy, i find it curious that he has so much time to make the rounds th...

Demonstrated that mueller will go after lawyers and will go after them regardless of how small the violation may appear. he wants people to tell the truth. so i think that message is very clear. any lawyers who are involved in this are going to have to testify truthfully, or there will be consequences. >> and william, you recently wrote something that got a lot of attention in legal circles. you said trump likely fits the u.s. attorney manual definition of a target, a person against whom there's substantial evidence linking him or her to a crime and is a p-- >> the question is whether, first o...

President say, and once again i'm reading, he said it is no wonder so much of this stuff, he's meaning terrorism takes place, he seems to be blaming the justice system for that. he's wrong on that, right? >> well, i can't tell you how many cases when i get briefed in my threat briefings the fbi, homeland security and the intelligence community have stopped so many things from -- you know, the times square bombing that was going to take place just last month, that plot was stopped and disrupted. that's just one example of so many that we've stopped in the past. but to have a wholesale indictmen...

Nieto. i think the american people should know how they are being represented by the foreign leaders. >> we should probably, colleen, point out, you were covering the white house, among other things, for "the wall street journal" and moved out to kansas city. so you're now among actual americans and tell us how high russia ranks on the list if we were to walk into kansas city and sit down for dinner, where would it rank on the subject matter that people are following? >> that's a good spot to go, brian, so thanks for that. no, russia does not rank high here. the first question is whether trump...