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Needed as the years go forward and these threats grow in the number and complexity. it is not just in terms of being able to get information but also when you think about things like disaster declarations and responding to emergencies. a lot of the law written when nobody was thinking about the concept of cyber attacks. they're about nampl disasters and national attacks. so i think it's very important for congress and the administration to work together to find ways the shore up information sharing, security and as your question points out, a lot of the critical infrastructure in this country ...

Afghanistan, avoiding a war with iran, and de-escalating a trade war with china. >> there's also real threats and challenges that don't just come in the form of hijacked planes. nick, you know better than i do, you've got cybersecurity, you've got disinformation campaigns. we have seen these issues realtime over the last couple of years. so, for those who argue, we are safe, we haven't seen a 9/11 in 18 years, what do you say to them? >> well, i say a couple of things, stephanie. first of all, our defenses are much stronger than they were at the time of 9/11. we are much more capable of defend...

She even addressed the trump factor. >> he's tapped into an anger that people feel. they're sick of politics as usual. you know whatever your issue, your cause, the festering problem you hoped would be resolved the political class has failed you. that's just a fact. and that's what donald trump taps into. it is disturbing that every time one of these home-grown terrorists attack occurs and as your question points out they are occurring with far too great frequency, it turns out we had warning signals. we need to be very well-aware of the fact that china and russia are using technology to attac...

She even addressed the trump factor. >> he's tapped into an anger that people feel. they're sick of politics as usual. you know, whatever your issue, your cause, the festering problem you hoped would be resolved, the political class has failed you. that's just a fact. and that's what donald trump taps into. it is disturbing that every time one of these home-grown terrorists attack occurs and as your question points out they are occurring with far too great frequency, it turns out we had warning signals. we need to be very well-aware of the fact that china and russia are using technology to att...

>> jon: here is another question for you or maybe the president? where is the transparency. >> your question points out to a legitimate mistake i made during the course of the year and that is that we had to make so many decisions quickly in a very difficult set of circumstances that after a while we started worrying more about getting the policy right than getting the process right. i think the health care debate as it unfolded legitimately raised concerns, not just among my opponents, but also amongst supporters, that we just don't know what's going on. >> jon: well, despite candidate obama'...