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He's getting ready to leave the white house fairly soon. he's going to head over to joint base andrews aboard air force one. fly off to davos, switzerland. what do you think of the way the report we're getting from pamela, how he phrased his willingness to address questi s questions? >> who are we kidding here? i skipped going to the dentist for five years. he doesn't want to do this. can you tell me one positive, one plus side of him going to talk to investigators, particular ly if the interview takes a couple of hours. do you think he's going to persuade mueller oh, this is all a hoax? that'...

Cohen after the election? >> you'd have to ask the president's outside counsel. >> but sarah, you're standing there -- >> sorry, kristen. >> can i just ask you about rnl rudy giuliani's comments? rudy giuliani said this morning, imagine if that came out on october 15th, 2016, in the middle of the last debate with hillary clinton, a reference to the payment, so does the white house now acknowledge that that payment was made with politics in mind? >> again, i'm not aware of the back and forth and i would refer you to the president's outside counsel. >> reporter: so, sarah sanders deflecting a nu...