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A housewo working group. and both groups will take their time especially chairman of the judiciary committee. he wants to make it more easy to pass. rubio recognizes that it's going to be a slow walk. >> in terms of the electoral strategy, obviously you guys want to see immigration reform move forward. in terms of election politics, if the house gop, this blocking minority stops immigration reform that had marco rubio's name on it, that's a big precedent for democrats. >> the republican party is going to have a latino vote problem if they don't pass comprehensive immigration reform. that's why...

Gets on my desk. >> can a deal get done? >> joining me now is robert costa and msnbc contributor maria theresa cumar. >> i love the pronunciation on that. >> i want to go to you first. that quote by rubio admitting that this faces an uphill battle in the house is telling to me. i spoke to one member of the gang of eight who says that marco rubio is more important than 50 gangs of eight. if this needs to be changed, it's a jenga game. you pull out one thing and the whole thing can fall. this is significant. this is not a slam dunk by any means in the u.s. house of representatives. >> what's hap...

I'm looking at paul ryan as sort of a key player here. very quietly in the background shoring up what he needs to shore up and peeling off votes he's not going to get. he knows the folks he can't bring to the stables or take out of the stables to actually get out in the field and run. >> kentucky derby week. >> preakness, baby. i think paul ryan and a few hands in the senate will massage this thing through. >> on that point, is it completely out of the president's hands now, joan? is it in the hands of whether or not senate republicans back rubio and get that number above 70 or 75 and is someo...