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Every day. we pray. we ask god to help us. you know, it may look big and grand but really we are just two people. we are ordinary people. it is kind of we pinch ourselves. it is hard to believe. we are grateful for the influence that god has given us but just trying to. >> chris: bring joel in. lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. how do you keep from losing your way? >> we start off every morning individually and together at times just to search your own heart. i learned from the mistakes of the past from ministers. many of these ministers that have fallen they he were friend...

Line that the obama campaign is hanging its hat on and whether or not they are playing fair with that line. the obama campaign points to this sentence and in fact quote it in the web video from romney back in 2007. it is not worth moving heavy and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person. here is the fall quote. hamas, diverse group, ha hezbollah. the full quote does make a difference. >> it does. but romney himself did roll back those comments in the aftermath of that because he got quite a bit of criticism even from within his own party when gave that interview ...

Difficult times. >> chris: and looking at it from the point of sue of so many people coming out in this particular case on a saturday night. why? >> i think everybody wants to be encouraged. you know, you want to be encouraged. you want to know there is a future, there is a hope and we hear a lot of negative things in life that this doesn't -- it is not just isolated and i just think people resonate it resonates with them to be encouraged and to be able to look at their future and know there is something to look forward to. >> chris: let's talk about that because this gets to a little bit of c...

Thanks to president obama bin laden is dead and general motors is alive. you have to ask yourself, had governor romney been president could he have used the same slogan in reverse? >> chris: vice president bide then week road testing a possible bumper sticker to use against mitt romney and we are back against the panel. you saw it in the lien from joe biden and also saw it in the obama campaign web video that the discussed with john brennan. the obama campaign not only bragging and quite rightly so about the gutsy decision to take down mit osama bin laden t

Point. >> i think it as clever formulation. are i don't think there is any doubt about it. i'm sure that it will delight the hearts of democrats and many of them will put that on a bumper sticker on their cars or refrigerators or whereever they want to put them. however, when it gets down to it, the fact that gm is alive is not a real proxy for the overall condition of the economy as voters perceive it. people have a sense about the economy that is rooted in how they are doing, whether they have a good job or a job at all and whether the people they know and the people in their family are simi...