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>> just to be clear, there's still no evidence that president trump himself was wiretapped? >> that is correct. that is correct. >> reporter: the chairman said the intelligence agencies were surveilling foreign targets. on tweeting, specifically on the four tweets that started the wiretapping uproar, the president echoed his own press secretary. when i said "wiretapping," it was in quotes. what i'm talking about is surveillance. >> the president was very clear in his tweet that it was, you know, wiretapping. >> reporter: but even if you buy that, only some tweets have the quote marks. others, ...

Ever. i'm racking my brain. it shows you how upside down this primary season is. we are in the new twitter election too. you have a candidate, donald trump, who tweets and retweets what others tweet. tell us about the crime statistics and false erroneous made up crime stats that donald trump retweeted. >> sure. he retweeted. he took a tweet from a follower and put it in quote marks and tweeted it from his account so his followers could see it. what was in it was a picture on the screen that contains a number of false statistics. it is cited to an agency that simply doesn't exist. what it impli...

No. >> no, i don't. that's where i you would put my betting chip today. i think he's positioning himself -- this may be smart. he may be positionings himself for a situation in which there is some very serious clinton problem, clinton scandal, not scandal around quote marks but actual scandal. in which case he could be the contingency white knight candidate the party establishment would rally around. >> what do you think? >> i don't know. >> you can't say that, we're on cable tv. i think it's hard to think about stopping a career in public life when he has served as long as he is and part of t...

He represented the credit card industry in delaware. joe biden -- he has those same imperfections and bernie does it better as you say. >> do you think he'll get, michael? no. >> no, i don't. that's where i you would put my betting chip today. i think he's positioning himself -- this may be smart. he may be positionings himself for a situation in which there is some very serious clinton problem, clinton scandal, not scandal around quote marks but actual scandal. in which case he could be the contingency white knight candidate the party establishment would rally around. >> what do you think? >>...

Joe biden voted for the hyde amendment. he represented the credit card industry in delaware. joe biden -- he has those same imperfections and bernie does it better as you say. >> do you think he'll get, michael? no. >> no, i don't. that's where i you would put my betting chip today. i think he's positioning himself -- this may be smart. he may be positionings himself for a situation in which there is some very serious clinton problem, clinton scandal, not scandal around quote marks but actual scandal. in which case he could be the contingency white knight candidate the party establishment woul...