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Roberts pointed out in the oral arguments, nobody is disputing the president's authority to on a case-by-case basis to shield someone or prevent them from being deported. it's doing it for a broad class of individuals. paul: is in any hint from the oral arguments where this is going to go? >> well, i think the solicitor general at the end of the oral arguments realized that the justices were very troubled by some of the, i mean, very sympathetic. there are, quote-own quote, real lives at interest here, but i think he gave them kind of a fallback as they try to understand, like, how square thes...

Nobody -- chief justice john roberts pointed out in the oral arguments, nobody is disputing the president's authority to on a case-by-case basis to shield someone or prevent them from being deported. it's doing it for a broad class of individuals. paul: is in any hint from the oral arguments where this is going to go? >> well, i think the solicitor general at the end of the oral arguments realized that the justices were very troubled by some of the, i mean, very sympathetic. there are, quote-own quote, real lives at interest here, but i think he gave them kind of a fallback as they try to unde...

In the 1990s after the soviet departure. again, i think they're fundamentally wrong, and the two situations are fundamentally different. but begin their mindset, i would be very surprised if any peace talks went very far. it's still a good thing to explore as long as we keep our expectations modest -- jenna: why? >> -- and don't let daylight emerge between us and president karzai and other people quote-own -- unquote. jenna: michael, let me interrupt. why is it a good idea to sit down with these guys who are still our enemies 12 years now in? >> it's a very good question. first of all, we have...