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Administration is ready for a court fight on it. quoting giuliani -- they have to have a reason for wanting them. i fail to see a reason. they can't just look at them. it has to be linked to some wrongdoing. he continued -- we will fight it in court and i think we would win unless they have a specific allegation. look for much more on this. i want to dig deeper with senator angus king. senator, thank you so much for being with us. dana just talked to rudy giuliani, so it's new to me, new to you. >> yes. >> what do you make of this, of his argument that the democrats don't have a reason to get ...

All right. this just in. cnn's dana bash just spoke with the president's tv lawyer rudy giuliani about democratic efforts to go after the president's tax returns. and he just told dana, giuliani did, that the administration is ready for a court fight on it. quoting giuliani, "they have to have a reason for wanting them and i fail to see a reason. they can't just look at them. it has to be linked to some wrongdoing." he continued, "we will fight it in court and i think we would win unless they have a specific allegation." look for much more on this. i want to dig deeper with someone who's prepa...

>> i'm quoting giuliani. if you're going to obstruct justice, you do it quietly and secretly, not in public. what do you make of it? >> yes. what rudy giuliani says is the norm. this president likes to break norms. maybe he likes to violate the law in ways that break norms as well. >> laura: kimberly. >> the cheerleading here is extraordinary. we have been witnessing this now for going on two years, and as i just said, headline after headline saying oh, definitely collusion. and then oh, obstruction of justice. really it will only be a few weeks now. look what mueller is looking at now. nothin...

Was and to prove obstruction -- >> i'm quoting giuliani. if you're going to obstruct justice, you do it quietly and secretly coming out in public. what do you make of it? >> yes. what rudy giuliani says is the norm. this president likes to break norms. maybe he likes to violate the law in ways that break norms as well. >> laura: kimberly. >> the cheerleading here is extraordinary. we have been witnessing this now for going on two years, and as i just said, headline after headline saying oh, definitely collusion. and then oh, obstruction of justice. really it will only be a few weeks now. look ...

Quoting giuliani, my references to timing were not describing my understanding of the president's knowledge, but my understanding of these matters. again, my references to timing were not describing my understanding of the president's knowledge, but instead, my understanding of these matters. in other words, when he told hannity a fact he didn't already know, it wasn't a fact, but feeling of personal understanding and misunderstanding of the president's understanding of timing and understanding. whether you prefer ranch or balsamicon the words, president trump denies his own story has changed ...