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>> but the fact is -- >> there's never been a republican woman on the judiciary complete. so that's a problem. that's why they couldn't trust themselves to question judge kavanaugh or dr. ford. >> i understand there's a gender component. there's not a race component. yet, liberals constantly keep bringing race into this. >> i'm a conservative. i've been a conservative my whole life. >> hold on. why do you think, it's not about race? there's no racial component? >> because everyone involved in the case is white. there's not a racial component to the kavanaugh nomination. there's a gender compon...

Primarily seen as sexual beings, still, it's going to continue and make it worse. >> i was about to say, so give me a scenario here that comes to mind. so you judge did, quite a scenario, in the traveling scenario, for two business colleagues, two men to have the drink of the day. no big deal. establish camaraderie and it spills over into the workplace, but if it's a man and a woman, all of a sudden it's uh-oh, how are we being perceived and is someone going to think i'm the new harvey weinstein of my fortune 500 company? >> precisely. it's even worse when it's a woman of color. i don't know i...

Person and i was with a caucasian male boss. so there's a race component to it. and that makes it worse. but the up shot here is it's always been tough. the could go in two directions. it could go in the direction of making it safer because we have vigilance and smart companies are going toceive upon this to make environments where you can create transparency, safety, a lot of dialogue around it and stop sexualizing women. >> so if you and i were colleagues, we're not having that drink, and kwaer motgloeg to share a meal. instead we're going to be meeting in a fishbowl inside the office. that ...

This country. i would like to think -- i have not spoken to steve about this. i would like to think he misspoke and didn't mean it in the way it sounded. >> tucker: was it a misunderstanding between you or is there a deep philosophical gulf between you? >> there is no personal friction between us. yeah. i think how we address our borders, he shares different views, he certainly argues that increases our economy -- he is more of an open borders advocate, i am on the opposite. we should restore the respect for the rule of law or we will become a third world country. there's a philosophical diffe...

>> i do not think that statement reflects what is special about this country. i would like to think -- i have not spoken to steve about this. i would like to think he was misspoke and it didn't mean the way it sounded. >> tucker: was it a misunderstanding between you or is there a deep philosophical gulf between you? >> there is no personal friction between us. yeah. i think how we address our borders, he shares different views, he certainly argues that increases our economy -- he is more of an open borders advocate, i am on the opposite. we should restored the respect for the rule of law or b...