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>> i think because these grand jury decisions were in a close period of time, they're grouped together. i can't put the new york city decision with ferguson. i can't ---they're two separate things. new york city one, i haven't met anybody honestly that feels that that was the right thing. >> well, it was -- it also was not a race issue. as was ferguson. >> de blasio thinks it was. >> i mean not a little -- he literally -- >> most things are a disgrace. >> he's misguided. >> there's your guy, bob. >> don't go away, new developments in the hacking scandal, next.

>> i think because these grand jury decisions were in a close period of time, they're grouped together. i can't put the new york city decision with ferguson. i can't ---they're two separate things. new york city one, i haven't met anybody honestly that feels that that was the right thing. >> well, it was -- it also was not a race issue. as was ferguson. >> de blasio thinks it was. >> i mean not a little -- he literally -- >> most things are a disgrace. >> he's misguided. >> there's your guy, bob. >> don't go away, new developments in the hacking scandal, next. y'know what my business

If black people are dying in the street and white people aren't, it's a race issue. >> there's not a disproportion dying in the streets. >> yes, there are. >> this goes beyond just, we're talking about police brutality, you mentioned, tafis was on last night. he said, blatant disrespect for black life on obama's watch. what will it take for him to step into this moment. he and i had a heated debate last night. it was very heated. listen to it. >> the president goes on b.e.t. to once again to some extent lecture black folks. i frankly don't fancy that. i'm just saying, step into your moment and...

Americans will understand that white americans are not against them, that they're for them, but that is not what the president wants, that is not what the race hustlers want at all. we saw obama in action with the trayvon martin situation when he came out and said if i had a son, he would look just like trafben martin. yeah. that's a code of words saying this was a race issue. when it's really not, neil. it breaks my heart to see how our young black kids are being deceived by adults who have more respect than most. they respect barack obama and if barack obama made black adults responsible for...

The elderly, all the people need jobs, until all of that is resolved, we're still on that road. >> that's not always a race issue. sometimes it's an economic issue, we hear sometimes, you know, there's still a lot of racism in america. certainly there is, but i'm just going to ask you, 50 years ago when the civil roigts act was passed, did you think that 50 years later we would have a black president? >> well, i always believed, because my uncle, martin luther king junior, my daddy talked about a beloved community. they talked about us all being one blood. i figured that one days ago history w...