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Them, are ginned up because people don't like what eric holder or anyone else a person of color has to say it is automatically a race issue in the media which then spreads. >> i am not saying he shouldn't be criticized but if you go back to the first answer it is cat nip and everyone pounces and that fuels cable ratings. >> now, a slighter topic that stuns me with all of the political news about chelsea's baby, announcing she is pregnant and you have all of the smart analysts saying, what is the impact of this on 2016, and are we perhaps analyzing what ought to be routine joyous occasion that ...

Them, are ginned up because people don't like what eric holder or anyone else a person of color has to say it is automatically a race issue in the media which then spreads. >> i am not saying he shouldn't be criticized but if you go back to the first answer it is cat nip and everyone pounces and that fuels cable ratings. >> now, a slighter topic that stuns me with all of the political news about chelsea's baby, announcing she is pregnant and you have all of the smart analysts saying, what is the impact of this on 2016, and are we perhaps analyzing what ought to be routine joyous occasion that ...

As we call them, are ginned up, because people don't like what eric holder or anybody else who's a person of color has to say. it automatically becomes this race issue in the media which then explodes. >> if eric holder wanted to be a hero to republicans, he could look into solyndra and benghazi, for example. he won't do it for some strange reason. >> i'm not saying he shouldn't be criticized but to go back to your first answer, it seems like cat nip, everybody pounces on it and the argument itself fuels cable ratings. i want to turn to a slightly lighter topic but one that stunned me with a...

Ignite some sort of race issue. >> it was 30 years ago and he did work with law enforcement. so why should it be as big a story? >> i read about it in "the new york times," more than one story in the "new york times." i don't think this story was hiding. you are right. it has been reported since 1988. he wrote about it in his book. >> moy question is, what's wrong with helping the fbi get members of the mob family? some of his evidence, police say, fbi said, led to convictions. >> it was reported, from c-17, which is what his name was. he denies being flipped. there are a lot of officials sort...

Musical acts. he agreed to cooperate after meeting with an undercover f.b.i. agent trying to gauge his interest in a drug deal. >> i did the right thing working with authorities. i didn't consider myself "an informant." i was an american citizen with every right to call law enforcement. >> he said he was doing good fighting crime by spying on the mafia and recording certain crime members. did he give us the whole story? >> know, he didn't, and nbc is, msnbc trying to protect their guy, the host. this story should be all over the mainstream media. if it was a conservative who had his own show t...