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Describing? >> those are his choices, not mine. >> mark: she is what tucker calls a zombie candidate. there's nothing inside there. >> her bigger problem is that she has just flipped her policy positions so much. definitely one of the candidates that puts her finger to the wing and will say whatever she needs to say to win would even be on some of these other things that we've addressed tonight, we also have an msnbc guest who called for people to show up with pitchforks and torches at stephen ross' house when he held these fund-raisers for donald trump over the weekend. here is what he said o...

Dangerous given what you are describing? >> those are his choices, not mine. >> mark: she is what tucker calls a zombie candidate. there's nothing inside there, essentially. >> lisa: her bigger candidate is that she has just flipped her policy position. she will say whatever she needs to say. but even beyond some of these other things that we addressed tonight, you always have an msnbc, who called people to show up with pitchforks, when he held a fund-raiser for donald trump over the weekend. here's what he said. >> i have no problem with shining the light back on the donors who fund this kind...

Hate. i mean i go further, i want pitchforks and torches outside this man's house in the hamptons. i've been to the hamptons, it's very nice. there's no reason it has to be. there's no reason he should be able to have a nice little party. there's no reason why people shouldn't be able to be outside of his house and making their voices peacefully understood that they do not -- >> totally. there have been peaceful protests outside mitch mcconnell's house and i imagine there will be peaceful protests outside this which is again it's all speech. peaceful protests, the right to assembly under the f...

Political reasons. you go somewhere. >> bill: did you see this from msnbc, roll it. >> you're my source. >> people of color are already targets under this administration. i have no problem with shining the light back on the donors who fund this kind of racialized hate. i go further. i want pitch forks and torches outside this man's house in the hamptons. >> julie: that's a little extreme. >> bill: what's going on? no reason why this guy should have a nice time. >> it is tough. people are advocating the things they say they're against in the first place. you can't say you're against violence an...

Shut down. msnbc, this is from yesterday. i don't know if you heard this. roll this. >> people of color are already targets under the administration. i have no problem with shining the light back on the donors who fund this kind of racialized hate. i go further. i want pitch forks and torches outside this man's house in the hamptons. >> bill: he said i've been to the hamptons, it's nice. no reason it has to be. there is no reason he should be able to have a nice little party? >> he did say he wants -- it should be a peaceful protest. calling for torches and pitch forks is not a peaceful metaph...