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But first, we go back to south africa in 1977, when the country was governed by a racist system known as apartheid, which discriminated against the black population in almost every area of life. peterjones spoke to witness history about his friend steve biko, a young black south african who was trying to bring about change. i miss my friend steve biko, and i am forever in his debt. steve biko is one of the people that originated the new generation of young, political—minded black people. the black consciousness movement. we believe that, in our country, there shall be no minority, there shal...

The second marines or the 81st to take positions in seattle? >> wow, brian, that's a two-part question that is important. let me deal with the first part first. you know because you've covered this administration and chronicled it every night at 11:00, that the president, the former president, rarely regrets anything. in fact, in our interview we learned that he really doesn't regret anything about 2020 except for one thing. though it was one of the most catastrophic years we've seen in our history, his big regret speak didn't unleash active duty military troops on the people who were exercisi...

Candidate unveiling his criminal justice reform plan which he says is aimed at curbing the prison inflation along the highlights of the plan are these. eliminate the death penalty, stop obsessive sentencing and mandatory sentencing minimums, expand the use of sentencing alternatives. his campaign says all of this is designed to root out institutional racism and corporate profiteering. what do you think of his plan? >> it's a funny thing, i worked in the justice system for a long time. i think it's the least racist system that we have in the country, if that's possible. we are a country that's ...

He talks about wanting to end for profit prisons, wanting to end the practice of cash bail and reforming how policing is done in this country. he wants to address the systemic issues that he sees in the criminal justice system that we currently have. i got to ask him about that after a church visit had he earlier today here in columbia, south carolina. listen to what he said. >> a racist system. people behind bars are dispro forcing natalie african, latino. we're spending a fortune rather than investing in young people in jobs and education, we're putting money into jails incarceration. we've ...

When you apologize, you really acknowledge that you did something wrong. and the vice president hasn't done that. i don't know why he's been stubborn in this case. he chose to speak about a segregationist and talked about civility. how can you have civility with someone who wanted violence against a huge portion of the american population? how can you talk about civility when you talk about someone who literally wanted to freeze america in place, all that institutional racism, we're still fighting to this day, james eastland is one of the founding fathers of that institutionalist racist system...