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Have something that supports their theory here? >> absolutely. they are going to have to provide any kind of factual information, if they have radar data, satellite imagery through the military. if there is some evidence that they can provide to the public that says that this was a missile shoot-down and that it was unintentional or intercepted any kind of communication that they were taking claim and they were able to dispute it or refute it, that type of information is going to have to be publicized. we saw this with mh-370 and all of the speculation that was abound. unfortunately, this has ...

Initial reports that evening showed some anomalies on a radar that was mistaken by someone by the faa as a missile hitting the plane and later on, it was determined to be sop sort of electrical interference that happens all the time. but sure the radars were critically important. >> the fbi hung on to every bit of the radar data and they tried and tried and tried to connect those dots, if you will, and despite their best efforts, they were not able to prove that that was a missile that came up to hit the aircraft. >> as time went on and the pieces of this puzzle sort of came together, we have ...

Handshakes fails on accuracy you're back to that position. you really are back to the very beginning of where the mystery begins. and once you're there, frankly, you are calling into question the corridors, you're calling into question the inmarsat and ultimately the radar data. >> david souci, i talked to david gallo about this a couple of days ago about the human search, is there data that nothing has been found, that momentum for the search will somehow be lost? >> well, i think just the energy level at this point regardless of whether they found or didn't find anything, there has to be tim...

Frequency. and that disturbs me, but then again, i think this airplane is still in the ocean. >> on the issue of the pings from the black boxes, i'm going to have to disagree with you, as much as it pains me to do that. >> arthur, you traffic in disagreement. >> i do. i do. i think those pings were right on. i think that the frequency difference, the 37 1/2 kilohertz which we're all making a big deal about. >> that's what it's supposed to be transmitting on. it came in lower. >> i think that's reflective of the incredible pressure where they were. you're down almost three miles. the temperatur...

This is not one man's calculations on the back of an envelope. >> jeff? >> it absolutely is. you can have as many experts as you want, but they're all just making guesses. and there is no certainty in the outcome, except if you look at the bottom. listen, one thing i want to remind you, the towed pinger locator has a range of one mile. if you look at an they're is ten miles across and it's not in that area, it simply does not correspond to a black box pinger. >> go ahead, arthur. >> i said it last night. as much as it pains me, richard is right on spot. and jeff, you're just -- >> not only are...