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That the malaysians are using for making their decision. it would seem they would have to have, you know, a radar plot that showed the aircraft coming down. it doesn't instantaneously lose altitude. so right as we're working and the aircraft came down to 5,000 feet, and so, was in the radar shadow, you would see the descent on the radar screens, and my understanding of the data is that's not what happened. so, there would have to be some other corroborating evidence to draw that conclusion. >> let's talk about that evidence, sir, because -- and we've been getting conflicting signals and inform...

It's not likely television up lily it was up there. did it dive to 25,000 feet precipitously? unlikely. the speed at which that is reported to have happened based on the radar plot would have taken the airplane apart. >> okay. anthony roman. many thanks for your expertise in weighing in. the mystery of the buried gold coins is deepening but will the finders get to keep them? and i've got this runny nose. i better take something. truth is, sudafed pe pressure and pain won't treat all of your symptoms. really? alka seltzer plus severe sinus fights your tough sinus symptoms plus your runny nose...

Radar plots. even if the transponder is off. if the aircraft is flying above 10,000 feet, there should be a primary radar plot. now, i understand the national transportation safety board from the united states has dispatched radar specialists -- >> yes. >> -- to malaysia to examine those radar plots and make just that determination. >> yes. malaysia said to the u.s., we need you, and we're going to help. anthony roman, thank you so much for your expertise this morning. i appreciate it. chris, to you. >> brooke, thank you. coming up on "new day," more gruesome evidence in the oscar pistorius ...

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