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Not plug in and try to separate air traffic. they have to be safe. capacity is the first thing you are going to see as this shutdown continues. it's going to affect capacity. there is not going to be enough controllers to be in our radar rooms across the country to provide the service. >> can you tell us about the numbers who have been affected by this in terms of no shows, i guess is the issue? >> i don't know what the numbers are. we are still getting details on some of the facilities. i do know washington center which is a regional facility, there are 20 across the country is taking some ab...

Sure that it stays safe, but in order to keep it safe they're probably going to have to cut down the capacity that's out there. and in the meantime we've gots people who are totally stressed coming to work. and my members are very aware of that and they're asking questions about it. and the traveling public is asking questions about it too. >> and trish, what's your quick answer to your friends and loved ones who ask you is it safe to fly now? >> sara had it right on the head. we're going to adjust capacity. because we do have a 30-year low in fully certified air traffic controllers. so we're ...

And no one will get away unscathed. so these people coming to work are doing it for all of us and they're working very hard to keep us safe and they're make sure that it stays safe, but in order to keep it safe they're probably going to have to cut down the capacity that's out there. and in the meantime we've gots people who are totally stressed coming to work. and my members are very aware of that and they're asking questions about it. and the traveling public is asking questions about it too. >> and trish, what's your quick answer to your friends and loved ones who ask you is it safe to fly ...

Deprive them of earned compensation. a statement from that lawsuit reads as follows, each day the air traffic controllers are responsible and it's radar rooms. each day the faa controllers that ensure the safe routing of tens of thousands of flights working lengthy and grueling overtime shifts, their job is so demanding and requires such rare skills that the faa struggles to maintain a full staff of people. the academy is closed as well right now. >> and there are program that's go on, air graft safety and flight safety. i spoke to the head of the air traffic controllers association who was ex...

Turn directing planes. and the faa is reviewing the policies to anybody going into any tower and radar rooms. children directing planes at new york's jfk airport? not once, but twice? >> clear for take off, jetblue, 171. >> reporter: he let his son in the control tower to talk directly to pilots, and the next day, according to an informed source, had a chance to direct two more planes. >> this is just unbelievable. how dumb can you be? >> reporter: former ntsb official says with runway safety such a critical issue, what happened is senseless. >> it's one thing to have your