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To -- his law in his state to mimic the arizona laws. i think there is a lot ofage station around the country even away from the border states. >> bill: that's my point. as long as this litigation continues and as long as this cultural war. >> exactly. >> bill: cultural war continues it overrides other issues, cable tv, talk radio, driving, driving, driving. then you have the racial aspect and celebrity. -- did you know lady gaga who i know is one of your personal favorites, weighed in on the immigration law. i will show that you tape later on. everybody is getting involved with this. >> when ...

To -- his law in his state to mimic the arizona laws. i think there is a lot ofage station around the country even away from the border states. >> bill: that's my point. as long as this litigation continues and as long as this cultural war. >> exactly. >> bill: cultural war continues it overrides other issues, cable tv, talk radio, driving, driving, driving. then you have the racial aspect and celebrity. -- did you know lady gaga who i know is one of your personal favorites, weighed in on the immigration law. i will show that you tape later on. everybody is getting involved with this. >> when ...

People like that. over to leslie, when you were inside the white house, this story according to shirley sherrod became a white house driven story because of glenn beck and fox news. all right? they were afraid that -- was fox news on president bush's radar scope the way seems to be on president obama's radar scope? >> well, no. i'm really glad you asked that question because i have given this a lot of thought this week. especially think about how the media has changed over the last several years. what happened this week is that the white house acted to preempt a news story that they thought wa...

Try to get strategy to demean people like sarah palin and people like that. over to leslie, when you were inside the white house, this story according to shirley sherrod became a white house driven story because of glenn beck and fox news. all right? they were afraid that -- was fox news on president bush's radar scope the way seems to be on president obama's radar scope? >> well, no. i'm really glad you asked that question because i have given this a lot of thought this week. especially think about how the media has changed over the last several years. what happened this week is that the whit...

People like sarah palin and people like that. over to leslie, when you were inside the white house, this story according to shirley sherrod became a white house driven story because of glenn beck and fox news. all right? they were afraid that -- was fox news on president bush's radar scope the way seems to be on president obama's radar scope? >> well, no. i'm really glad you asked that question because i have given this a lot of thought this week. especially think about how the media has changed over the last several years. what happened this week is that the white house acted to preempt a new...