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Oh, gee, they're in the same building, they're on different floors. how do they usually relay the information? they pick up the phone or walk down the hall or turn around and say hey, joe, we have a missing plane. i think they deserve a fair amount of criticism. >> maybe angus houston will say they have better information about the black boxes. chances are he will say we have come to the conclusion that the pingers, the batteries have run out and now we start a different phase of the investigation. but can the investigation ever be complete without these black boxes? >> well, if you find wreck...

Glad that jeff did bring this up. i mean, i don't agree. i think it's in the ocean. but i like that jeff brought this up, because it's very clear we have some big holes and problems, and a bit of a cover-up over the malaysian radar and the indonesian radar. now, we've heard dis -- disconcerting disconnects between civilian radar coverage, control and military in malaysian, and just recently they said we tracked the plane -- we did see the plane head over the malacca straits, and the indonesian radar, information is they completely went around indonesia and headed to the south. now, if that isn...

Flight 370 went down, the families of the 239 people on board still do not have answers about why the boeing 777 disappeared. and their search for answers is likely going to remain stalled unless the flight data and voice recorders are found and analyzed. back to you. >> unbelievable. peter, thank you. >> think about it, that a whale sound could be mimicking this 37 kilohertz sound. >> it could be a beluga as tucker is doing, or an orca. >> it's a distress call, whatever. >> or something used in the shipping industry, i mean, how much hope is this really giving us? and the other issue is the c...

It's about communicating where you have looked. communicating anything that might look slightly suspicious. it's about communicating where the currents are. so if you've got something on the ocean floor, you then communicate that to the air search with algorithms working where the currents are and tracking to where the impact point could have been. but ashleigh, there no smoke out fire. i don't think you're going to find black boxes without finding something, whether it be a life jacket, as ghastly as it sounds, a body. something which would indicate you're in the right area. and as an investi...

Lot of guess work involved. the speed estimate that they've used is based on basically the last speed that they recorded using primary radar tracks. pretty much very close to malaysia, essentially. and that put them in the -- into the thinking that it was at or about, we believe, 12,000 feet. and that the red line speed for that is about 400 knots. so here's the question. was it flown in deliberately? that could be one speed. or was it on autopilot and the engine starved. did it pitch up violently and go into some sort of stall and spin. which would change the speed at which it would hit the w...