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Zelenskyy to do the investigations, correct? >> well, now what do we mean by these investigations? >> burisma and the 2016 election. >> yes. >> and at the time that you were engaged in coordinating for the statement, did you find it unusual that there was such an emphasis on a public statement from president zelenskyy to carry out the investigation that's president was seeking? >> i didn't find it that unusual. i think when you're dealing with the situation where i believe the president was highly skeptical about president zelenskyy being committed to real kri changing ukraine after his entire...

>> simply because i've known vice president, former vice president biden for a long time. i know how he respects his duties of higher office and it's just not credible to me that a vice president of the united states is going to do anything and act as he sees best for the national interest. >> finally, ambassador, before i turn it over, i was struck by something you said on page eight of your statement which treats in hindsight i realize others saw investigating the ukrainian company burisma as equivalent to vice president biden. i saw it being inappropriate, the lat irbeing unacceptable. in r...

>> they met in madrid. >> and did you learn that mr. giuliani requested anything of the ukrainians at that meeting? >> only when i spoke with mr. giuliani afterward he said that he thought ukraine should issue a statement and then i spoke with the aide after that and he said, yes. and we're prepared to make a statement. and that then kicked off the series of discussions that i said in my testimony. >> we'll get into that in a second. mr. giuliani does not explain to you what needed to be included in that statement and in that call you had? >> he said something more general as i recall. i recal...

Interference, it is clear he was only talking about whether any ukrainians acted inappropriately. at this time, i was focused on our goal of getting president ze zelenskyy and president trump to each other. i was seeking to solve the problem i saw when we met with president trump in the oval office on may 23rd. as a professional diplomat, i was comfortable exploring whether there was a statement ukraine could make about its own intentions to investigate possible corruption that would be helpful in convince plg giuliani could con take to mr. trump a positive assessment of the new leadership in ...