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All drawn up over the problems that came with his office, the tough decisions, tough calls he had to make. what will you remember him for in office? >> well, i think whether you're a critic of jim comey or a fan of jim comey, there's almost unanimous sentiment that he is a man of integrity who tried to do what he thought was the right thing. and i think what we've seen in the last 24 hours, as jeremy mentioned, is a moment when we need patriotism over partisanship. we've seen a former attorney general speak about how she's warned the white house. we've seen the white house call that former att...

Conversation from washington. he was here with us last night. former chief spokesman for the justice department, also an msnbc justice and security analyst. matthew, same question i just asked raj. when you think of james comey, what are your first thoughts? >> more than anything else, you think of independence. sometimes with somebody who is independent, you don't agree with what they're doing. i disagreed very much with the way he handled the clinton investigation, with how he ended it and with his letter that he sent in the fall. but more than anything else, you knew that he was making the ...

Sasse, to lindsey graham, to several others and richard burr, who is leading the senate intelligence committee to stand up and unanimously say with their democratic colleagues that when our nation is attacked, we're not democrats or republicans. we are americans. we all have to stand resolutely against those who would do harm to our way of life and our system of government. and i just think in the long sweep here, brian, we've had now the president attack separation of powers by trying to impede a congressional investigation. he has attacked the first amendment and a free media and a free pres...

Caused the president to decide that he wanted to impede this investigation first by firing sally yates just a day or two after the president learned that the fbi had interviewed mike flynn and basically flynn had lied to the fbi. and then now firing the leader of that investigation in hopes to clean house and probably install somebody who he thinks will be more favorable to him and his team. >> and, raj, first of all, welcome to the broadcast. secondly, i know you have viewed this as just the latest firing. take us back into how at the intersection of investigations and firings at the hands of...