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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111214:00:43:00

Economic relationship, as richard mentioned. lots of pilgrims come to visit holy sites in iraq. but let s be under no illusions here. iraq is not turning into a satellite state of tehran. the iraqis are nationalistic people, who will forge their own identity going forward, chris. well, that s good to hear. you know, in terms of american politics, which i cover here, rajiv, let s take a look at this. according to a new cbs poll right now, 77% of the american people agree with this need to take these troops out. only 17% disagree with it. and i was just thinking, listen to dick cheney, and i m no fan of his foreign policy, i m just thinking, suppose he had said back in 2001, 2002, when he was blowing the bugle for going into iraq, he said, let s go in there and stay a decade or two. if he had been honest, in what he s just saying right now, back then, nobody would have gone in. so this argument, get them in there, hook us in there, ratchet effect, and then keep us in there for forever ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111214:00:41:00

Author of imperial life in the emerald city, about his time as a correspondent in iraq. let s take a look, now, rajiv, of what dick cheney s been saying about here he is, the former vice president last night on cnn bashing this withdrawal of troops by the united states this december. let s watch. we re now in a situation where we re pulling all of our troops out of iraq, period. no stay-behind force. he s trying also to accelerate the withdrawal from afghanistan. and it generally looks like a u.s. withdrawal from the region. and you add to that the fact that the iranians are actively pursuing nuclear weapons, and i think it diminishes the u.s. presence, it reduces our leverage, it, in effect, is going to significantly alter our position in that part of the world. and i think that s a mistake. well, this is the man many people believe rammed us into iraq, got us in this war. he used his influence against w. to get us there. now saying we should never leave, basically. that is th ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111214:07:41:00

Let s take a look, now, rajiv, of what dick cheney s been saying about here he is, the former vice president last night on cnn bashing this withdrawal of troops by the united states this december. let s watch. we re now in a situation where we re pulling all of our troops out of iraq, period. no stay-behind force. he s trying also to accelerate the withdrawal from afghanistan. and it generally looks like a u.s. withdrawal from the region. and you add to that the fact that the iranians are actively pursuing nuclear weapons, and i think it diminishes the u.s. presence, it reduces our leverage, it, in effect, is going to significantly alter our position in that part of the world. and i think that s a mistake. well, this is the man many people believe rammed us into iraq, got us in this war. he used his influence against w. to get us there. now saying we should never leave, basically. that is the implication. don t leave. go into these countries and stay there in sort of a neocolonia ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111214:00:44:00

If he had tried that back in 2001 during his big bs buildup, nobody would have gone in there. it would have been a totally non-starter. not only were they arguing there was wmd, and that they were going to quickly democratize the nation. they argued that the reconstruction would be self-funding. you know how many tens of billions of dollars we paid for iraqi reconstruction, not to mention the hundreds of billions of dollars now totaling more than $1 trillion for the overall military presence. no, i mean, even if this thing were a quarter of the cost, a tenth of the cost in terms of american lives, in terms of american dollars, in terms of american casualties, i think it would have been a non-starter back in 2002. they said it would have been quick and easy, it was absolutely essential, and then it was going to be quickly over. it was going to be a cakewalk. a wonderful phrase. a cakewalk that s now ending after a decade and they want it to continue! rajiv, you re a great reporter. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111214:07:43:00

But let s be under no illusions here. iraq is not turning into a satellite state of tehran. the iraqis are nationalistic people, who will forge their own identity going forward, chris. well, that s good to hear. you know, in terms of american politics, which i cover here, rajiv, let s take a look at this. according to a new cbs poll right now, 77% of the american people agree with this need to take these troops out. only 17% disagree with it. and i was just thinking, listen to dick cheney, and i m no fan of his foreign policy, i m just thinking, suppose he had said back in 2001, 2002, when he was blowing the bugle for going into iraq, he said, let s go in there and stay a decade or two. if he had been honest, in what he s just saying right now, back then, nobody would have gone in. so this argument, get them in there, hook us in there, ratchet effect, and then keep us in there for forever is a totally dishonest approach to policy making. it s getting us to do something under false pr ....

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