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Congresswomen of color, in particular omar who was born in somalia, though chants were heard and really set a tone for an ugly year and a half of campaign fought along the lines of race and he divisiveness. we didn't hear that last night. the president did not mention any of those congresswomen so there was no moment for them to start with that chant again. we've now had a few rallies in a row which we have not heard it. but last night's rally is still potentially an interesting moment for this president because of today's special election in north carolina where he is trying to push a republi...

Hopeful that will be there. >> that's right. president trump heading to the border to take his argument for more border security and border wall funding down to texas. he will be greeted by counter protesters. as he leaves washington he is leaving these talks in a really bad place essentially. he had his acting chief of staff saying he believed the talks were basically leading towards another shutdown. president trump spent so much of the last several days saying they are standing in the way of talks. essentially as he goes down to the border it's basically president trump against the governme...

Kn union. they're talking about this tip over the state of the union. pelosi did what republicans bet she would not do is actuall actually they are nom going to the state of the union. republicans talked privately about the president going out somewhere else to get a speech. that would be undignified for the state of the union in a rally setting. he just exhausted his stare pelosi in the eye scenario and he is back to the ground floor and he will have to consider other options. maybe he will go to the congressional visitor center auditorium. i don't think that is dignified for the state of the...

And he listens to the quote/unquote establishment types up to a point about stay back, stay out of this, but then you mentioned the rally setting. at that point he trusts his instincts and he thinks that this is a big fight. he is trying to get his people out and some would argue that he is trying to hear some people around him saying create a white male race. listen to the president. >> it is a very scary time for young men in america when you can be guilty of something that you may not be guilty of. somebody could accuse you of something and you're automatically guilty. but in this realm, yo...

And say that is a bridge too far? >> the only person that knows the answer to that and doesn't know it right now is donald trump. i mean do you think donald trump knows two hours before he's going to say what he's going to say? >> he's in the rally setting that's going to lead him most likely to say something abhorrent to use the word of the day. they're outside that saying lock her up. that's when he gets himself in trouble. at the same time, this was really too far. and while he is a man that does not ever and he also knows how to separate himself from people. so i see those tensions and i a...