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Allegedly plotting to subvert the election. david, usually being arrested is not a good look. but when you are really trying to capitalize on the idea of being a martyr, is it better for him to try to make a spectacle of this? >> not even donald trump thinks this is a benefit to him overall and his political standing. yes, in the short term it's having a rallying effect, he's seeing his support rise and donations come in, all of this is true. but in the even donald trump believes this is good for his long-term standing. when you hear him in that interview you just played where he said, "i have...

Justice system weaponized against their political opponents and so there's a rallying effect around donald trump and the more they indictment him, the more the voters -- the republican voters are going to rally around him. >> bill: one of his lead attorneys did the full ginsburg over the weekend and hit all five talk shows. pretty good. here is his take on why he wants cameras in the federal courtroom and more. >> i want the public to see the evidence. if you ask me what my personal opinion is, the answer is absolutely, i'd like to see that. what i'm concerned about is the government has alrea...

Cycles, more damning things released about him, and he obviously could get indicted again and again after that. i'm not sure how this will wear, but we've seen him -- a rallying effect around him based on the first -- >> then, to what effect for the candidates, because many of the gop presidential candidates were criticizing him over the federal indictments. some are criticizing the doj's decision -- are those candidates missing an opportunity here, because do they have any shot at front runner status? getting the nomination if they don't go after donald trump. >> it's sort of pathetic, first ...

Something to the pittsburgh office for scott brady, u.s. attorney and bill barr talking about the u.s. attorney in delaware. who knows how that will shake out. in the meantime, you are in the washington area and the town is atwitter whether or not donald trump will be indoited for document handling in mar-a-lago. >> marc: yeah. who knows if they'll do it or not. if they want to make donald trump the nominee, go ahead and indict him. if you look at the polling before the indictment by alvin bragg, trump in the mid-40s and all of a sudden, bragg indictment comes around and he shoots into the 50s...

Mistake. >> if i were advising ron desantis, he's one for several weeks people believe is the most viable to president trump. but it's easy when you are playing baseball in your own backyard. when you have to go to the other homes and people are pitching you, you have to hit the ball. desantis has to get out of florida and pitch the ball. the indictment has obviously energized trump and it's creating a rallying effect around him. ets's more likely to get the nomination now. but a cnn poll says 31% of